Eight Phases Info

Invisible Egg! · Post by **Invisible Egg!** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:43 pm

***NEW FLASH!***

This just in:

Mia = 6th Phase !

Wow!

***We now return you to your regularly scheduled forum debate***

What evidence is there that Morganna is directly hurt/injured/wounded/attacked when the Phases are defeated? That's all I want to know, seriously.

... and we don't really need to use the Spoiler Tags in Serious Discussion, now do we?

Andy00 · Post by **Andy00** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:49 pm

Don't be so sarcastic, eggs.

The evidence is that after all the Phases are dead, Morganna is gone. People who have played the Japanese versions of the 3rd and 4th games have told us this. _Why_ this is is somewhat open to interpretation, as translations are sometimes sketchy. Rhyste believes that the last Phase, Corbenik, is Morganna. Others believe that since Morganna = The World, and the Phases = The World (Killing a Phase damages The World, and even other Pases. Note Mia's voice problems in Mutation.) that they're connected thusly.

Why isn't The World destroyed then, when Corbenik is? I'd wager this has something to do with Aura.

BlackroseLover · Post by **BlackroseLover** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:51 pm

Because Aura might DIE when put back together meaning that she is now the Commanding AI so It is then saved because Aura completed her purpose as Harold intended,So then Aura took over in Morgannas place exactly as Morganna execpt named Aura

Aura probaly died because she was put back together and as I have said dying completes her purpose which is when Morganna dies

Arua is put back together exactly as you kill the 8th phase

that is the only proof I needed

Invisible Egg! · Post by **Invisible Egg!** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:54 pm

Then it seems to me that Morganna is actually "defeated" because she is "replaced" by Aura. Not merely because the Phases are defeated.

But maybe my interpretation of The World's hierarchy is flawed.

Oh yeah, and...

[spoiler]Aren't pointless Spoiler Tags fun?[/spoiler]

Andy00 · Post by **Andy00** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:55 pm

Excuse me if it's pointless. I'm just slightly paranoid. It doesn't take that much effort to underline them.

Eggs...have you played the 4th game? Or are you basing your statements on what someone who has has said? Otherwise, why are you giving us grief over this?

Invisible Egg! · Post by **Invisible Egg!** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:00 pm

As far as I know, no one on this board has played the 4th game, except Niu, I think. I'm just trying to understand. This is why I start sentences with "I think" and "It seems to me" etc. Because I am not an expert, but I am curious.

Andy00 · Post by **Andy00** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:09 pm

Throughout .hack, we're given part of a story. We try to fill up that story the best we can. Because as humans, having "blanks" drives us nuts.

Mostly by coming up with explainations that seem to work. Then changing them as information from the games, anime, TV series etc tell us otherwise.

I've personally had to rewrite my ".hack overall story" several times. <g>

Frankly, I doubt we'll ever be given the full story. Such as how people in coma's are in the game, while not connected to it.

Niu · Post by **Niu** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:18 pm

I preffer to use the word manifestation or incarnation to describe the relationship between Phases and Morgana.

How this relationship function is not epxlained clearly so I can't say much about it, but it is a fact that phases and Morganna are the same thing.

But I think Morganna is destroyed at the end because Aura is complete. As she is now replaced by Aura.

But hurting Phases would kill Morganna is also a valid expalnation. Since Morganna trying to hide Phases away from Kite after she realize soo many of them has been killed. If killing Phases won't hurtt Morgana then why is she hiding them away?

aura_Key_of_the_twilight · Sat Jun 21, 2003 4:33 am

Niu wrote:I preffer to use the word manifestation or incarnation to describe the relationship between Phases and Morgana.

How this relationship function is not epxlained clearly so I can't say much about it, but it is a fact that phases and Morganna are the same thing.

But I think Morganna is destroyed at the end because Aura is complete. As she is now replaced by Aura.

But hurting Phases would kill Morganna is also a valid expalnation. Since Morganna trying to hide Phases away from Kite after she realize soo many of them has been killed. If killing Phases won't hurtt Morgana then why is she hiding them away?

I havent played 3 or 4 yet, but I totally agree with Niu. Morganna is replaced by Aura. The reason the world was revived was because (well this is my theory) Corbenik is the Rebirth, meaning Rebirht of Aura OR rebirth of the world. A new world without Morganna.

Brad_Evans · Post by **Brad_Evans** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 6:34 pm

Kite Stabbed Aura dead. has it not any relation with Aura's death? 0.o

I believe what Niu said about Morgana and the phases.

aura_Key_of_the_twilight · Sat Jun 21, 2003 8:49 pm

When does Kite stab Aura dead? I thought she self destructs to kill the last Phase.

Niu · Post by **Niu** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:45 am

Kite did stab hard into Aura. When Kite is giving Covernick a final blow, Aura blocks it and it plunge right into Aura. Than Aura whispered "mother...." And she turn to light and dived on to Covernick and blows her up with it.

And she whispered mother before she blow herself up with Covernick. That can be interpret in different way. And it does suggest the possibelity that Covernick is Morganna herself.

Brad_Evans · Post by **Brad_Evans** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:26 pm

hm... could "mother" not be Harold? ^_^ but I think it's Morganna, too ^^

thedudewhosadude · Post by **thedudewhosadude** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:10 pm

But Aura's not attack-able! (?) She's a NPC, right? So then you couldn't attack her, just as you can't attack the shopkeepers. But then again, it's a cut scene, so...yeah......

BlackroseLover · Post by **BlackroseLover** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:53 pm

Niu wrote:Kite did stab hard into Aura. When Kite is giving Covernick a final blow, Aura blocks it and it plunge right into Aura. Than Aura whispered "mother...." And she turn to light and dived on to Covernick and blows her up with it.

And she whispered mother before she blow herself up with Covernick. That can be interpret in different way. And it does suggest the possibelity that Covernick is Morganna herself.

ty for clearing that up because for Morganna to die Aura has to die so she will be fit to take morganna's place that explains evering.