Her real life self and her in-game self are the same person. Basically her personality got downloaded into the game, and taken out of her real life body. As The World only copies data dealing with emotions, all of the brain functions essential to sustaining life (for example, breathing, and heartbeat) were left alone. Which is why Tsukasa didn't die after being data drained....
So the Tsukasa in a coma is basically just an empty shell, as her mind is trapped inside the game.
Tsukasa
Morganna's Role
Hm. There are some mistakes on this thread.
Tsukasa doesn't pose a threat to Morganna while he's in The World. In fact, Morganna NEEDS Tsukasa. Aura does too. The nature of the conflict is, Morganna needs Tsukasa to remain in The World and feel great despair so Aura will, basically, shrivel up and die, since she relies on Tsukasa's emotions. Meanwhile, Aura needs Tsukasa to be happy. Also, she needs Tsukasa to log out - as soon as Tsukasa logs out, Aura awakens. So Morganna's main goal is to keep Tsukasa from logging out long enough for Aura to be destroyed due to Tsukasa's despair. Doesn't quite work out that way, tho...
As Helba explains in the episode Net Slum, Morganna doesn't wish for the 'birth of Dark Aura'... she doesn't want Aura to be born at ALL. She just has turned Aura into Dark Aura so she can be deleted.
As for Tsukasa, yes, it's been explained quite nicely, and it's a pretty simple concept to begin with... Tsukasa's player was put into a coma when Tsukasa was Data Drained. While Tsukasa was in a coma, he somehow kept a tenuous mental link with the game - specifically, while his mind in the real world seemed to be totally shut down, really his thoughts were in 'The World'... basically it was like he was playing 'The World' even though he wasn't at a console. Only problem was, he couldn't log out, and since he was actually inside the game now he could feel pain and such. That's one way of interpreting it, at least... Messy stuff, mu...
BTW, Cyral - Nice job spoiling an extremely important thing that happens in .hack//QUARANTINE (the recruitment of Helba).
So much for these boards being safe from spoilers... you didn't even give a warning... Oh well, I don't care myself, just feel sorry for the people you spoiled that for.
Tsukasa doesn't pose a threat to Morganna while he's in The World. In fact, Morganna NEEDS Tsukasa. Aura does too. The nature of the conflict is, Morganna needs Tsukasa to remain in The World and feel great despair so Aura will, basically, shrivel up and die, since she relies on Tsukasa's emotions. Meanwhile, Aura needs Tsukasa to be happy. Also, she needs Tsukasa to log out - as soon as Tsukasa logs out, Aura awakens. So Morganna's main goal is to keep Tsukasa from logging out long enough for Aura to be destroyed due to Tsukasa's despair. Doesn't quite work out that way, tho...
As Helba explains in the episode Net Slum, Morganna doesn't wish for the 'birth of Dark Aura'... she doesn't want Aura to be born at ALL. She just has turned Aura into Dark Aura so she can be deleted.
As for Tsukasa, yes, it's been explained quite nicely, and it's a pretty simple concept to begin with... Tsukasa's player was put into a coma when Tsukasa was Data Drained. While Tsukasa was in a coma, he somehow kept a tenuous mental link with the game - specifically, while his mind in the real world seemed to be totally shut down, really his thoughts were in 'The World'... basically it was like he was playing 'The World' even though he wasn't at a console. Only problem was, he couldn't log out, and since he was actually inside the game now he could feel pain and such. That's one way of interpreting it, at least... Messy stuff, mu...
BTW, Cyral - Nice job spoiling an extremely important thing that happens in .hack//QUARANTINE (the recruitment of Helba).
So much for these boards being safe from spoilers... you didn't even give a warning... Oh well, I don't care myself, just feel sorry for the people you spoiled that for.
Re: Morganna's Role
So...there is something else I don't get. You can pm me if you know buy what happens if Aura gets deleted? I don't want to know if she does or w/e just what would happen.Silence wrote:Hm. There are some mistakes on this thread.
Tsukasa doesn't pose a threat to Morganna while he's in The World. In fact, Morganna NEEDS Tsukasa. Aura does too. The nature of the conflict is, Morganna needs Tsukasa to remain in The World and feel great despair so Aura will, basically, shrivel up and die, since she relies on Tsukasa's emotions. Meanwhile, Aura needs Tsukasa to be happy. Also, she needs Tsukasa to log out - as soon as Tsukasa logs out, Aura awakens. So Morganna's main goal is to keep Tsukasa from logging out long enough for Aura to be destroyed due to Tsukasa's despair. Doesn't quite work out that way, tho...
As Helba explains in the episode Net Slum, Morganna doesn't wish for the 'birth of Dark Aura'... she doesn't want Aura to be born at ALL. She just has turned Aura into Dark Aura so she can be deleted.
As for Tsukasa, yes, it's been explained quite nicely, and it's a pretty simple concept to begin with... Tsukasa's player was put into a coma when Tsukasa was Data Drained. While Tsukasa was in a coma, he somehow kept a tenuous mental link with the game - specifically, while his mind in the real world seemed to be totally shut down, really his thoughts were in 'The World'... basically it was like he was playing 'The World' even though he wasn't at a console. Only problem was, he couldn't log out, and since he was actually inside the game now he could feel pain and such. That's one way of interpreting it, at least... Messy stuff, mu...
BTW, Cyral - Nice job spoiling an extremely important thing that happens in .hack//QUARANTINE (the recruitment of Helba).
So much for these boards being safe from spoilers... you didn't even give a warning... Oh well, I don't care myself, just feel sorry for the people you spoiled that for.
Re: Morganna's Role
One more thing. What happens if Aura gets deleted? I don't want to know if she does or not just w/e is supposed to happen.
If Aura got deleted before passing on the Book of Twilight, there would be no one with the power to oppose Morganna, and she could do pretty much whatever she wanted. I'll use spoiler tags for this next bit just to be safe.
[spoiler] Like we saw in the games, Morganna would increase in size until her data became too big for the World's servers to handle. At that point she would attempt to spread beyond the World, and into other computer networks. And once she does that, everything goes crazy. Remember Liminality 2? I think similar things would happen with anything she touched. Since almost everything in the .hack world is connected to the internet, practically everything electronic would be thrown into chaos. I don't know about the players of the World falling into comas, but there would definitely be a lot of damage done to networks all over the real world.[/spoiler]
That's what I think, anyway.
[spoiler] Like we saw in the games, Morganna would increase in size until her data became too big for the World's servers to handle. At that point she would attempt to spread beyond the World, and into other computer networks. And once she does that, everything goes crazy. Remember Liminality 2? I think similar things would happen with anything she touched. Since almost everything in the .hack world is connected to the internet, practically everything electronic would be thrown into chaos. I don't know about the players of the World falling into comas, but there would definitely be a lot of damage done to networks all over the real world.[/spoiler]
That's what I think, anyway.
Aura's deletion is rather complicated. Harald created Aura to be the Ultimate AI, with the ability to think freely and feel emotions like normal human beings. Should Aura be deleted, then all of Harald's hard work would have gone right down the drain. Rather disappointing to have your life's work, which you actually paid your own life for, to be destroyed.
As for its affect on Morgana...that's even more complicted. Morgana originally started acting weird after Harald introduced "wavering" to her and told her what her true purpose was- to give birth to Aura and then "die" as Aura took in her data. Without Aura to "kill" Morgana after she was born, Morgana would have no concern about her self-preservation, which lead to all the problems she caused. In THEORY, deleting Aura would solve all the server problems within The World. In actuality, it's probably more complicated than that, especially since many of the problems were caused by mere things, such as Morgana's increasing size, for example.
But then that leads to the question "If Aura's deletion would solve all the problems, then why not just let her get deleted?" Like I said earlier, Morgana still caused problems just existing. After all, she was never meant to exist forever.
Besides, if we just let Aura get deleted, there wouldn't be any games, now would there?
As for its affect on Morgana...that's even more complicted. Morgana originally started acting weird after Harald introduced "wavering" to her and told her what her true purpose was- to give birth to Aura and then "die" as Aura took in her data. Without Aura to "kill" Morgana after she was born, Morgana would have no concern about her self-preservation, which lead to all the problems she caused. In THEORY, deleting Aura would solve all the server problems within The World. In actuality, it's probably more complicated than that, especially since many of the problems were caused by mere things, such as Morgana's increasing size, for example.
But then that leads to the question "If Aura's deletion would solve all the problems, then why not just let her get deleted?" Like I said earlier, Morgana still caused problems just existing. After all, she was never meant to exist forever.
Besides, if we just let Aura get deleted, there wouldn't be any games, now would there?
Trading is about give and take. That goes for information as well...
Truthfully, had Aura been destroyed, Morganna would have eventually spread throughout the entire Altinet Network, causing the system to crash and causing another Pluto's Kiss. And without Aura, or the Wielder of the Bracelet to fight against her, nothing short of a complete system shut down of The World would stop her... of course if she did manage to spread beyond the Network before the shutdown occured... it would have been really bad.
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hello. i'm new here.
haha after reading this thread, i more of less understand why tsukasa can't log out. and why aura is so important, kind of, and why moragana wanted tsukasa to be full of despair.
but could someone explain who data drained him(her)?
and who is that cat, why call her mum?
and i read in page one, someone commented that tsukasa is an AI, i'm pretty sure (s)he isn't an AI, but a real player.
the ending is a little wierd though... (s)he logged out right in front of the enemy? then the next scene, tsukasa runs into sumaru? a little wierd. =(
haha after reading this thread, i more of less understand why tsukasa can't log out. and why aura is so important, kind of, and why moragana wanted tsukasa to be full of despair.
but could someone explain who data drained him(her)?
and who is that cat, why call her mum?
and i read in page one, someone commented that tsukasa is an AI, i'm pretty sure (s)he isn't an AI, but a real player.
the ending is a little wierd though... (s)he logged out right in front of the enemy? then the next scene, tsukasa runs into sumaru? a little wierd. =(
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brassmonkey wrote:hello. i'm new here.
haha after reading this thread, i more of less understand why tsukasa can't log out. and why aura is so important, kind of, and why moragana wanted tsukasa to be full of despair.
but could someone explain who data drained him(her)?
and who is that cat, why call her mum?
and i read in page one, someone commented that tsukasa is an AI, i'm pretty sure (s)he isn't an AI, but a real player.
the ending is a little wierd though... (s)he logged out right in front of the enemy? then the next scene, tsukasa runs into sumaru? a little wierd. =(
Macha, the floating cat was the one who originally data drained him, she apparently altered the Gott Statue in the duneon so that when Tsukasa opened it. Boom! Data Drain.
And Tsukasa is not an A.I... the comment on that was just a description of what exactly happened to him.
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