I'm confused about the coma business

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:31 am

So, you're saying she might also be controlling the memorys he sees? That would make sense, since the ones he does see don't show anything about [spoiler]him being a girl IRL or about anything good that happened in his life.[/spoiler]

Rogue_Noir · Post by **Rogue_Noir** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:43 am

Maybe there's a hidden feature in the VR goggles that when someone gets data drained, it drills into the person's head and implants a micro wireless interface allowing the person to communicate with the server directly (while the server sends instructions through the interface to have the person go into a coma while engaging in The World with all 5 senses..

Either that, and/or via out of body experiences and psychic phenomonon..

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:55 pm

Um. I'm fairly sure that since CC Corp -doesn't- want the coma's to happen (bad for business, after all) they wouldn't make a device like that. Besides the fact that any curious person or hacker could find it and completely ruin them.

Xeno · Post by **Xeno** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:39 pm

[spoiler] Think of it more as a form of telekineses (spelling?), If your telekinetic ability is strong enough then you remain in the game, It explains why some people remained in the game (Tsukasa) while others didn't (Alf). It also explains the reason Skieth was wandering around DDing people...trying to find a person with enough telekinetic ability and enough mental problems to serve Morgannas purpose. Then again I could be wrong...I just made this up a second ago anyway.[/spoiler]

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:54 am

Eh. I don't think so, if only because it didn't really seem whether or not he had TK ability rather then the fact he ticked her off when she had Skeith DD a certain person at the end of SIGN.

And I think it was more to get them out of the way then for any purpose when Skeith was DDing people between SIGN and Infection. Basically, get them out of the way so Aura can't use them to help her, like she does with Kite.

Guynietoren · Post by **Guynietoren** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:10 pm

Not Telekinesis, that's moving objects with your mind. Your probably thinking of Telepathy. But even with that you don't have as great of influence to cause a sensory disruption. I'm thinking more along the lines of Professor Xavior from X-Men. Taking control of someones mind just enough, and leaving there own self awareness/will power.

The whole plot would have to involve something in the World that can reach outside into real life and trigger a Neuro-sensory dissorder. Quite unlikely, but theoretically it's supposed to be the musical tone of 'A'. Or maybe that's what the sound sounds like within the game. Maybe it sounds differently to the user who it's designated to effect.

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:26 am

Well, it was commented that because Mai could hear the sound, she was somehow immune, right? Maybe it's the fact that the tone is subliminal.

thedudewhosadude · Post by **thedudewhosadude** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:29 am

i think it was because [spoiler]she's a violinist (sp) and to tune any instrument you usually tune to A. Since she was a violinist, she recognized the first part of the coma-chain, and broke it. Someone said this before on another thread, i'm just re-stating it[/spoiler]

SA-kun · Post by **SA-kun** » Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:12 pm

[spoiler]In "in case of TOHNO, Kyoko" we learn about Boundary Nature Liminality. In short, it means that your mind is inside or out. Sieg, at the time, was totally absorbed into the game. Mai was not. Thus, as Rhyste has stated before, Mai's Liminality saved her. I believe that as well.[/spoiler]

CRtwenty · Post by **CRtwenty** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 6:56 pm

Back on the topic of the coma victims connection to their physical bodies, we find throughout the .hack series that most of the world's machines are connected to the internet. So perhaps...

[spoiler]Tsukasa's body is connected the the Tsukasa trapped inside the World by the life support machine he is on, when the machine was disconnected by Tsukasa's dad, not only was Tsukasa's body dying, but he had also "lost his connection".[/spoiler]

. H A C K // S O R A · Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:56 pm

when you go into the game your mind leaves your body. when your data draind your soul is traped in the game. you body contunues to live. but in a coma like state. when your mind is put back into your body your alive again. think of your body like a marrinet and your mind is the hand moving the strings. the marineete doesent die if the hand leaves the pupet. sort of. anyways thats my take on it.

Sora · Post by **Sora** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 9:46 pm

That would work, save for the fact that your mind does -not- leave your body when you play The World. If you watch characters IRL wearing the goggles, they still talk with each other, move around, respond to stimuli ,etc.

Not to mention, this is disproved because...

[spoiler]In episode 27, we see three girls playing the same character. I doubt they would allow for three minds in the same body. Don't get into MPD ideas, either.[/spoiler]

There's also the fact that The World's servers could likely -not- handle so many minds being in the game at once.

CRtwenty · Post by **CRtwenty** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:09 pm

Apparently The World can also be played with a keyboard or that weird controller thing we see (using a normal monitor instead of a headset)... Odd...

[spoiler]Perhaps The World uses a modified version of the Deadly Flash Virus to trap it's victims? But only the Headset users are affected by it? Just a theory...[/spoiler]

Guynietoren · Post by **Guynietoren** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:52 pm

Don't get into MPD ideas.

Not necessarily MPD. One body can contain more than one consciousness. Just all three being awake at once. Just think about the conjoined twins who each control one side of the body. It could happen that way with 1 brain. Volutary + Autonomic as well. People with MPD don't necessarily have voices in their heads, right. It gets kind of weird, nobody really says much about it.

Sora · Post by **Sora** » Fri Aug 01, 2003 12:31 am

People with MPD don't necessarily have voices in their heads, right. It gets kind of weird, nobody really says much about it.

Actually, they do say a lot about it.

http://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/

http://www.tanuki.cx/pavilion/codex/intro.html

http://www.kitsune.cx/blackbirds/index.html

We're not getting into it at this time. Now, what was the discussion about again?