Senses in The World
Okay, now I'm getting confused. I'd always thought that the scene in episode 14 that Rogue_Noir spoke of meant 1) that Mimiru was scared and imagining it, or 2) that Very Bad Things were happening. None of the SIGN characters except for Tsukasa ever mentions mentions tactile sensations. What still bothers me is the idea of a "double touch," where players experience reality AND the World simultaneously and in varying degrees of consistency. If nothing else, there's apparently an override system to alert players of danger nearby - things like smoke or nearby violence.
Now that I think about it, in episode 13 Tsukasa tells Mimiru that he can tell she needs to take a bath. It's only in the Japanese version; they changed the dialogue in the dub. I don't believe this means anything, however ... Tsukasa was probably just being insulting (which he does quite often). If it's real, then it implies that the game picks up everything about a players physical condition and then uploads it, but that no one except Tsukasa ever notices it. Then again, in episode 6 he tells Subaru that he can smell her perfume. My manners are a little rusty, but I'm fairly certain that's never an insult. Who knows?
Now that I think about it, in episode 13 Tsukasa tells Mimiru that he can tell she needs to take a bath. It's only in the Japanese version; they changed the dialogue in the dub. I don't believe this means anything, however ... Tsukasa was probably just being insulting (which he does quite often). If it's real, then it implies that the game picks up everything about a players physical condition and then uploads it, but that no one except Tsukasa ever notices it. Then again, in episode 6 he tells Subaru that he can smell her perfume. My manners are a little rusty, but I'm fairly certain that's never an insult. Who knows?
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I'll probably have to go with the double-touch theory. I've had dreams where I could still hear the radio playing in my room, so it doesn't sound too hard to design a VR system that doesn't affect a person's external stimuli but supplements it (e.g. Mimiru feels Bear's sweat as well as the texture of the controller she's holding.)
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Personally, I think it's simply advanced role-playing for the most part. When you have spend a while seeing only The World, you will start to imagine feeling things, even smelling things. Though of course, in Tsukasa's case, it wasn't imagination. And what he smelled from Subaru was probably her character. If, for Tsukasa, The World is real, then he would surpass other people. If a game can put people in comas, it can invent smells for them, perhaps based on how long they have played. Playing for an hour, you smell fine. Play for 10, well....
As for Mimiru in the odd dungeon, that is an anomaly. It's to show that, yes, Very Bad Things are happening. Bear even comments that it's not a normal dungeon, it's OUTSIDE of The World. The fact that they are starting to experience some of what Tsukasa feels shows this.
As for Mimiru in the odd dungeon, that is an anomaly. It's to show that, yes, Very Bad Things are happening. Bear even comments that it's not a normal dungeon, it's OUTSIDE of The World. The fact that they are starting to experience some of what Tsukasa feels shows this.
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Why?
Tsukasa was beyond The World, recall. Normally, restrictions they put on a character would... well, work. But they didn't. I think Morganna was inventing her own code, using it to manipulate Tsukasa.
But I also think you are right that, as the story goes on, these changes Morganna made are slowly affecting the other players.
Tsukasa was beyond The World, recall. Normally, restrictions they put on a character would... well, work. But they didn't. I think Morganna was inventing her own code, using it to manipulate Tsukasa.
But I also think you are right that, as the story goes on, these changes Morganna made are slowly affecting the other players.
"A friend... or perhaps, a foe. A meddler with a warning." -Helba, .hack//Infection
Tsukasa wasn't limited to what normal players were, for his 'soul' in a sense was engulfed in the game, his feelings in real life were 'moved' to The World. Good example would be when the father pulled the plug on Tsukasa in the real world, and he didn't die or feel pain. [If I recall correctly. ^^ ;;]
So Tsukasa isn't totally engulfed in the World, is he? That override system still works for him; in a life-threatening situation he was able to feel real-life pain. That brings up another interesting point: in episode 12 Tsukasa says to Mimiru that he doesn't need to eat or sleep. Is this because he's connected to a life-support system? If so, does that mean that if any of the other players lost in the World aren't found quickly, they'll starve to death?
While this appears to be off-topic, I swear it isn't. I don't believe that the World includes any food for the characters, just for the puchigusos. This raises two questions. Would players EVER have a sense of taste, since there's absolutely no need for it? If there was food in the World, would the uber-players like Tsukasa be able to survive off of it?
While this appears to be off-topic, I swear it isn't. I don't believe that the World includes any food for the characters, just for the puchigusos. This raises two questions. Would players EVER have a sense of taste, since there's absolutely no need for it? If there was food in the World, would the uber-players like Tsukasa be able to survive off of it?
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It all seems to have to do with brainwaves, & what your brain tells you, in sort of like a dream, if you think you can feel/smell/taste something, then you can. it all has to do with what your brain is telling you.
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I imagine that if Tsukasa had tried to eat the food, he would have tasted it. But he didn't, because he never felt hungry. However, I believe that in the real world, the doctors commented that she wasn't talking in nutrients correctly or something.
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