What if they actually made THE WORLD for the PC

Bear · Post by **Bear** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:11 am

. H A C K // S O R A wrote:actually the controler looks more PS2 then anything else... but back on topic. what do you think the monthly fee would be, i say 1$$ a month, now i know thats cheap but that would still generate 10,000$$ a month if there is 10,000 users. and realy thats more then enough to keep the servers running. and people who are less likey to P2P will be willing to spend a buck on .hack if its a well bult game. IRO is see more then 10,000 users during sundays. i mean how mutch can server matenence cost?

Unfortunately, $10,000 a month isn't nearly enough for a game on the scale of .hack. Not only do you need an immense amount of processing power and bandwidth, but it needs to be highly reliable, which triples the cost or worse. A Web site being unavailable is an inconvenience, but things get ugly when a pay MMORPG goes down for the count.

I'll assume that .hack is set quite some ways into the future, and that computers at that point require, in order to handle the management of full 3D space for multiple users, only somewhat more power than is required for managing a standard MMORPG today. This is, I think, charitable. ^_^

The most logical layout would be to have clusters of computers, each in different locations, acting as a server (e.g. Alpha). Players would generally use the server nearest to them on the Internet.

I'd place the initial cost at $1,800 per machine, with three running machines and one standby per server, plus a good switch and router at about $2,500 total, and a standby for each. That's an initial cost of $12,200. To be safe, equipment will probably need to be replaced once every two and a half years, for an average ongoing cost of $406/month per server - or at least $440/month with equipment-related incidentals.

A half cabinet of space at a good co-location provider (not Crazy Jim's Colo Hut) will be at least $800/month. These servers will need a lot of bandwidth, at least 2Mbps, from multiple, reputable carriers (not Crazy Dave's Bandwidth Hut, a.k.a. Cogent). That's $1,000/month at the very least, with $3,000 setup or more.

At least four servers - Japan, U.S. West, U.S. East, and Europe. That comes to an initial cost of $60,800, and $8,960/month, before any personnel or development(!) costs whatsoever.

Wow, that came out to be really long-winded and pedantic. ^_^; Sorry.

Kama · Post by **Kama** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:44 pm

"The World"

Ad Slogan--You ain't rich, you ain't playin.

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:38 am

Well, you have to think of the time period here. First, The World is made from the ONLY online provider. In the world. Not World, mind you.

Think Microsoft, only 100x more.

Not to mention the fact that this is several years into the future, where according to the OAV's, almost everything is connected to the internet and ATLIMIT.

So, I'm guessing it would be more feasible that way.

Tsukasa · Post by **Tsukasa** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:27 am

If it were the only online provider, wouldn't it then jump bandwidth rates up quite a bit, as there is no one else to provide that?

Remember. Bandwidth is not cheap. At all. It generally costs more than webspace itself.

Super Tsukasa Z · Post by **Super Tsukasa Z** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:44 pm

Dang and my parents complain about everquest online imagine if i told them about this they would go through the roof btw how much is it a month to play everquest online pm me please

pyrostorm · Post by **pyrostorm** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:58 am

yea it'd be cool with vr goggels and stuff, but then who could buy it? think of the price tag

if it were released right now, it'd look like a wayyyyy better version of diablo 2, since in diablo 2 you get to control the charater with ease and you skill is dependant in duels, just like in the show.

if you have doubts about skill in diablo 2, create a necromancer, and go duel something, if you play the game anyway.

Hema · Post by **Hema** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:54 pm

Back on the subject of body suits,
They do exist. If any of you have the "Lord of the Rings" DVD, check the special features. It talks about the man that played Golem in the movie. He's wearing a body suit to manipulate the Golem on the computer. Just like in "G Gundam" (made back in the 80's). When the fighter goes into battle, a suit covers their body and some pegs are sticking out of them (they are censors, and they send out information to the Gundam) so, the creators of the Anime were way ahead of themselves.

Just to let you all know, the government is keeping many things from us. Be aware when the time comes...

Guynietoren · Post by **Guynietoren** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:17 pm

I bet all the hardware that goes with it is pretty expensive. They've used body suits to make all sorts of movies. But it just feels like something that wouldn't go well on the market. Just like the VirtualBoy. Has anyone ever tried to use the VirtualBoy in a car? It's near impossible, unless you bend over with the thing between your knee's. Even then, it's hard to hold still. Some inovations are cool, but more often come across as a hassel or just too expensive.

There have been a lot of things designed by animes/movies/games that were developed later. That Gundam thing reminds me of Metal Gear Solid, where Otocon wanted to build a big robot suit(Metal Gear) because he loved anime.

Serini · Post by **Serini** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 2:09 pm

if "The World" was out and it had a big gigantic fan base (for .hack), then it might be a sucess. ( I read gamepro) BUT, if it didn't, then it might not survive. But hey, anyone can pick up that game and start playing it.

Krono · Post by **Krono** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 4:10 pm

Just like in "G Gundam" (made back in the 80's).

mid 90's actually...

I agree with guynietoren, those things would definitely be too expensive... even now, few movies are actually using them... and the ones taht are are big budget movies like LOTR....

Untitled8 · Post by **Untitled8** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:58 am

LMAO! sorry,sorry....BUT BODY SUITS! In every .hack series there is they use [spoiler]goggles,microphones and controllers[/spoiler] . But YEAH I WOULD GET IT! I would probably make a Young male twin-blader type (like kite). I CANT GET ENOUGH OF KATARS

Kama · Post by **Kama** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 2:19 am

Okay, body suits blow.

Simply, some Quake III type glasses/goggles, a microphone [MAYBE with translation feature, probably not] and a controller. Controller optional. Only big budget features use something similar to body suits. There are goggles and sensors that are used already in games. Much cheaper and more comfortable.

Laxjeff2002 · Post by **Laxjeff2002** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 3:00 am

Well, if they actually DID make The World, i would buy it right away, and make a wavemaster

they rock

Youser · Post by **Youser** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:27 am

Actually, im working on a copy of "The World" but its mostly for friends an stuff because my site isint very popular XP. And im not going to release it untill 'Project .Hack' gives me clear(they wont email me back!!) because i dont like interfearing with that corporate crap. 0_o

Invisible Egg! · Post by **Invisible Egg!** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:42 am

Progress

::Character Design(80%)
::Map Design(30%)
::Battle Engine(50%)
::Networking(15%)
::Main Engine*(25%)
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I'm not trying to get you sued or anything, but how are you setting up The World? I mean, what sort of game engine are you planning on?