Think about this...

LiquidSnake · Post by **LiquidSnake** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:59 pm

I think Helba says in either .hack//SIGN or one of the games that the Key of the Twilight could also be an event. That might be close to the truth. The Key of the Twilight can override the foundation of the World right? Chew on this: every time you defeat a Phase, the problem in the World gets worse. The foundation of the World is being overridden more and more with the defeat of each Phase. Maybe that is the Key of the Twilight.

Penguins · Post by **Penguins** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 2:19 am

LiquidSnake: What are now say that Key of twilight is the fact the phases will overide and take over the the World.

thedudewhosadude · Post by **thedudewhosadude** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 2:38 am

aside from the fact that i don't understand you, but this has been said many, many, many times.

1. Phases=Morganna.
2. Morganna=The World
3. Hurting a phase=Hurting Morganna
4. Hurt Morganna=Hurt The World

And once again, Aura is the key of the twilight. Yes Aura. It is said in //Sign.

Guynietoren · Post by **Guynietoren** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:54 pm

If the Key of the Twilight is an event in which the game resets, then the game could possibly have bosses or a general objective. Or phases as there called here. If the bosses where intended to be controlled by an AI, you would have a really awsome game. Who's to say that all this chaos wasn't intended to happen.

The ultimate challenge, like that chess master guy who was beaten by a computer program. Except a real AI was opposing you. I can't seem to think about AI's without thinking about the T3 movie.

Put to a point that an AI's intelligence grows on it's own, something human kind can't do very fast. They have recognised that the average IQ increases over time. But not nearly as fast as an AI's, in theory anyways. I've always seen AI's as a bad idea. An intelligent virus would be the end of the net.

thedudewhosadude · Post by **thedudewhosadude** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 2:20 am

yeah, all that reminded me of was the animatrix, the second rennasiance. Who knows, maybe in the future the events in the Animatrix will happen?

Sora · Post by **Sora** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 3:18 am

Keep in mind this is about .hack, not the Animatrix.

As far as the Key of the Twilight being an event, or a set of circumstances, I'm more prone to agree with that. However, you would do best to remember that the events during the game occur DURING the Twilight, and thus, the key would logically exist beforehand, during //SIGN.

We don't know what, exactly, it is, but we're sure it either happens or is centered around the time when Aura wakes up in the end of .hack//SIGN.

thedudewhosadude · Post by **thedudewhosadude** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 4:07 am

sorry about the off-topic-ness, but i thought that Aura was the key. I know you can't rely on fan-subs, but i remember in one episode late in the series they said, "I think that i know what the key is! It's not an item, but rather a person. It is very likely that Aura is they key!" Again, you can't rely on fan-subs, but i'm convinced it's Aura. Also, one of the 'mysteries; in //liminality is about the key. It says that Altimit decided to make the key a non-existant item, in cover-up of what happened in //sign.

Rhyste · Post by **Rhyste** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:23 am

Have you ever thought that the Key of the Twilight was both a gimmick item and at the same time... not?

In example, Skies of Arcadia:
Vyse, Gilder, Aika, and Fina are split up; the two groups manage to find the two pieces to a treasure map that were split by the two treasure map maker people, and go to find the treasure. It turns out to be a two-group puzzle island. You switch between Vyse and Gilder, the boy group, and Aika and Fina, the girl group, to do the puzzles and lead each other to the treasure room, but when Gilder opens the chest, he finds a note that basically tells them that they had to have friends to find this chest, and that that's the "greatest treasure." See? Gimmick item, but at the same time, "friendship" existed.

The .hack//SIGN cast hunts for the Key, but they have no idea WTF it is at all, but they end up finding each other, etc. The fake existance of the Key thus would've made them press on for their search to get Tsukasa out of the game, making the key a non-existing, intangible item, but at the same time, still existed within the fact that, well, Tsukasa got out of the game.

And Penguin, please make posts that make sense: it helps everyone kthx.

Brad_Evans · Post by **Brad_Evans** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:32 am

*re-read chara relationship chart in encyclopedia*

Aura, Xefi, and Lycoris is in the category "Key of the Twilight"

Rhyste · Post by **Rhyste** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:46 am

... is the arrow pointing from Balmung to Reki say, "Yaoi Lover?" T_T

I'd assume that Aura, Zephi and Lycrois would all be connected to "the key" in some way or another, but I guess the question is more or less, "how." >;O

Brad_Evans · Post by **Brad_Evans** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:25 am

Balmung - Reki :
(online) - no arrow
(offline) - i can't read them ^^; but not "rabu2" XD too bad, Rhys

That makes sense, I'm still sticking to the Key=Aura, User=Tsukasa, tho ^^

but... why is Xefi one of the key? Twilight has already passed

LiquidSnake · Post by **LiquidSnake** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:13 am

If Aura is the Key of the Twilight, then her aweakening would signal the beginning of the end for the World. Something else would have to happen after the aweakening in order to override the foundation of the World as said in .hack//SIGN. That's why I don't think Aura alone is the Key of the Twilight.

Rhyste · Post by **Rhyste** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:15 am

The Twilight is a time period ["Twilight Era"]. The Dusk is after the Twilight. This is discovered in Volume Four: Kite discovers that Dusk comes after Twilight, and that they're "in" Twilight right now, meaning Dusk follows. :3 You could learn this from one of the older threads in this forum.

LiquidSnake · Post by **LiquidSnake** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:34 am

Rhyste wrote:The Twilight is a time period ["Twilight Era"]. The Dusk is after the Twilight. This is discovered in Volume Four: Kite discovers that Dusk comes after Twilight, and that they're "in" Twilight right now, meaning Dusk follows. :3 You could learn this from one of the older threads in this forum.

So the unofficial title for the games could be .hack//Twilight since that is the era they take place in. What's SIGN supposed to mean?

Rhyste · Post by **Rhyste** » Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:14 am

Well, SIGN is like "Dawn." :3