Player killing

Elk · Post by **Elk** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:14 am

This seems to be an issue in most games, where someone decides to be annoying & kills another player. Or that's mostly the case.
I'm actually quite suprized that in the period of time, when Sora harassed/threatened B.T. for her player-address, then killed her; yet she did not report it.
Did anyone else find it odd that she didn't report him (she had his member-address), & he got away with it?

CRtwenty · Post by **CRtwenty** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:15 am

She did report him, to Bear and the Crimson Knights... but considering PKing didn't seem to be an actual violation of the User Policy, the actual Sys Admins couldn't do much about it, and left it to their player police force (the Crimson Knights) to deal with it.

Sora · Post by **Sora** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:21 am

She may not have cared as much, either. She was annoyed at the fact that she lost all that EXP, but I don't think she thought that the Admin would actually do anything, so she probably didn't think it would make a difference if she reported it or not.

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:01 am

Bear suggested that she report it, but BT said something along the lines of the fact that the Knights seemed preoccupied with something else, and probably wouldn't do anything about it.

It was when they were hunting Tsukasa, I recall.

Guynietoren · Post by **Guynietoren** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:30 pm

It's been around since the first online RPG I can think of. In the Legend of the Red Dragon(LORD), you could do that but it wasn't quite the same thing. There wasn't a true person to person interaction back then. When you were playing, the other players are sleeping. You weren't allowed to attack people lower than 5 levels than your own. And if you went for a strong character they'd wake up and take you out before you had the chance. I think the fight was for a portion of their gold. You could only PK once a day. Play time was limited to 1 hour a day. The player you attacked was controled by a software AI. So nobody lost any EXP, just there gold. I'm not sure if the attacker gained EXP or not. Those games rocked back in the day. It was all text though.

Invisible Egg! · Post by **Invisible Egg!** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:12 pm

I think that Player Killing must be allowed in SIGN's version of The World. Otherwise, you probably wouldn't be able to do it.

CRtwenty · Post by **CRtwenty** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:15 pm

According to the hidden files on the Liminality 2 DVD, PKing was legal in the beginning of the World, (and we see it is still legal in //SIGN) but was disabled before the start of //INFECTION. (Possibly because of some event in //ZERO? I don't know, I haven't read it)

Guynietoren · Post by **Guynietoren** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:06 pm

Or they didn't feel like programming that in. Bleh.

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:54 am

Nah, it says in one of the Lim disks that PKing was eliminated during one of The World upgrades. They probably got too many complaints about it. Poor Sora.

Guynietoren · Post by **Guynietoren** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:05 pm

An excuse not to program it in. It doesn't make much other sense, to end a way to add more to the story line, side stories and what not. The end of the .hack may have already been writen, in that case.

Liminality comes with the games, which makes it seem peticular to the game. Whatever the reason, there probably is just a blunt answer to it. A real world answer, as opposed to a story line answer.

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:00 pm

Not to mention all the extra work that would create. It'd be rather stupid, if you could just wander around and slaughter everyone in the towns, kill all your party buddies and whatnot.

Rogue_Noir · Post by **Rogue_Noir** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:45 pm

[spoiler]

In DUSK, there was a scene where Ginkan and Shugo were killing the knights of war as a last ditch effort to get away when they cornered Shugo. I don't think PKing was ever eliminated.

[/spoiler][/spoiler]

Robby-san · Post by **Robby-san** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:57 pm

Most of the players don't seem to care about it. In episode 9 Mimiru just stands there and does'nt care that Sora's Katars are at her throught.

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:57 pm

*shrug* Well, it obviously was between SIGN and DUSK, says so in the disk. Maybe there are exceptions. I mean, you can PK someone if you're charmed or confused.

Sora · Post by **Sora** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:27 am

Well, that's different, I think, as it's not intentional. You may not be allowed to consciously attack partymembers, or, it could be that you can -only- attack partymembers, and then they'd probably drop you from their party!