Maha (Now with Spoiler Warning action!)

Xebexz · Post by **Xebexz** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:52 pm

Yes but the whole point is Maha is AI, computers aren't/don't/most likely don't feel pain. Tsuakasa 'soul' is in the ga-.. nevermind I've said this already.

Bottom line, He can feel pain, he's trapped in the game, Maha's a computer, so she shouldn't be feeling pain like Tsukasa did. ^^

YashaOokami · Post by **YashaOokami** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:58 pm

Are you sure..?
Alright,if you say so.
Might wanna watch this week's episode,unless you have seen it already,then I wont bother :/

And also,its not Tsukasa's soul that is trapped in the game [if thats what you were trying to say] its her self-conciousness.

Xebexz · Post by **Xebexz** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:07 pm

Yes I know, thus the ' ' around soul, because I can't spell..that word.. o.o

Well I can but I get freaked when I make errors, it's like TV 'ya know.

Cobweb · Post by **Cobweb** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:10 pm

I'm impressed by your DNAcentrocism, Xebexz. If you think the AIs are *just machines,* with no ability to feel, than why should you even care about what happens to Maha? The whole point of the character is that she *is* more than just an line of code, she's a person. Remember, the whole thing about how she slowly became closer to Tsukasa and decided that what Morgana was doing to him/her was wrong? Morality is a *human* response.

YashaOokami · Post by **YashaOokami** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:13 pm

Yeah,you said it Cobweb! Right on! Lol

A.I.s are like any living being,they learn new things and experience another :/

Xebexz · Post by **Xebexz** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:13 pm

I didn't get attached to Maha because of her ways at the begnning, I have trouble changing my opinons on someone/something once I have set them, it's the flaw in my character. =/

If I really took time to think it over, I coudl care for Maha. I do, but it's just my number emotionally thought at the moment. Sorry if I avoided the point of the situation. ^^

CRtwenty · Post by **CRtwenty** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 3:07 am

Maha may not have felt pain in the same sense as a human would, but I certainly doubt that being data drained was a pleasant experience for her. I mean it'd be similar to having somebody rearrange your DNA code.

FireDraconian · Post by **FireDraconian** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:35 am

The ability to feel pain is part of your brain. If AI is truely artifical intelligence, the only difference is that their brain is created through electronics and therefore not biological. It doesn't have anything to do with it's ability to feel pain.

Rhyste · Post by **Rhyste** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:38 am

When it all boils down to it, all of them are imaginary characters. So, really: none of them have "souls."

Kotetsu · Post by **Kotetsu** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:56 am

thats kinda mean, we all need an illusion to think about and provoke thoght, and infinitly, on some other planet in some other glaxy, it could exist

Sora · Post by **Sora** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:57 am

That depends on your definition of a soul, Rhyste, but I don't think this is necessarily the place to get into that.

I'm of the opinion that an AI can feel 'pain', though not necessarily in the same way that we do. Pain is, of course, a signal to the brain that something is NOT RIGHT in the body. If something is NOT RIGHT with a program's code or something like that, then I would assume there would be some equivilent. They may not be as sensitive as humans, but I'm sure that enough of a change in their code could be considered painful.

It really all depends on how 'human' these AI were made to be. If they were made to have only a form of 'intellegence', they may not have a sense of pain, just as they may not have a sense of right or wrong, or any sort of 'feelings' at all. But AI in .hack seem to be the kind who have likes, dislikes, hopes, dreams, and all of the things that make someone 'real'. The fact that these AI change and learn indicates that there is some emotional factor that triggers these changes. Something that is based on intellegence alone lacks the entirety of a thought process, and thus, would not be able to change or have the will to grow, or in that right, have any will of its own at all.

Rhyste · Post by **Rhyste** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:44 am

Sure they exist in spirit, but not nesscessarily soul. ;3

Sora · Post by **Sora** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 6:47 am

Rhyste wrote:Sure they exist in spirit, but not nesscessarily soul. ;3

Okay, I'll give you that >P

Sora, I'm going to have to give you a warning. No one-sentence replies that are not on topic!

See, I'm fair :P

Kotetsu · Post by **Kotetsu** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:50 pm

*applaudes Sora's honestness*

but what if maha isnt an a.i.? what if its someone else thats been trapped in the game since fragment? because, isnt howard hurwiek... or something also trapped in the game?

Sora · Post by **Sora** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:58 pm

No, Maha is an AI, and this is proven, so that's factual information ^^;

[spoiler]Because Maha is Mia, and Mia is the 6th Phase, this automatically makes her/him/it an AI. A Phase is a part of Morganna, and Morganna is a program, so.. yeah.[/spoiler]