I really think they should make a .Hack//"The World" For the PC, where you can customize your player model and go to the Server from the game, It would be very expensive though, they would want to run it on a
NVIDIA FX Graphics card so it would look just like the PS2 version. And about that Virtual thing on the Japanese site, it's most likely real and in testing because in the past people have gone into Colma's and into Shock with virtual Reality systems. .Hack//"The World" for PC would be a great creation with alot of sales because everyone I know that has played .Hack//Infection loves it and wants a PC Version. And please forgive me for typing so much ^_^
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Actually NobalAlmasy, it probably wouldn't be all that expensive. Taking prices and graphics into account, using Everquest and Elder Scrolls Three Morrowind (boy that's a lot of typing lol) in which you can customize pretty well, especially in Elder Scrolls, they are priced fairly well. The graphics and battle mode suck in Elder Scrolls three, which you can customize more in, and adding to that i'd say anywhere from $50-100 which is your typical price for most PS2 games. As for the graphix, well with a decent 3d engine such as DirectX the graphics would be ok. And some computers might not accept the graphic engine of a ps2, that's why they're consoles. Some graphics are meant to be splendid, but the graphics card in your pc may not be up to date. WHEW! enough about games and programming lol
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Let us see...
Ok, heres the price range basics:
Nvidia FX-300$
.Hack//"TheWorld"-50$
Windows ME, XP, or 2000-100$(ME) 200$(XP), or 200$(2000)
A high ghz computer (2.0+)-50$-------Unless you want to lag
Voice Headset-50$
Controller-20$
(TBA)Virtual Reality Set-100$ to 200$
Now here are the totals:
Windows ME=$550+Virtual=$650/$750
Windows XP=$670+Virtual=$770/$870
Windows 2k=$670+Virtual=$770/$870
Of course some of us have some of these items already, they can do the deductions themselves.
Nvidia FX-300$
.Hack//"TheWorld"-50$
Windows ME, XP, or 2000-100$(ME) 200$(XP), or 200$(2000)
A high ghz computer (2.0+)-50$-------Unless you want to lag
Voice Headset-50$
Controller-20$
(TBA)Virtual Reality Set-100$ to 200$
Now here are the totals:
Windows ME=$550+Virtual=$650/$750
Windows XP=$670+Virtual=$770/$870
Windows 2k=$670+Virtual=$770/$870
Of course some of us have some of these items already, they can do the deductions themselves.
Most people will already have the computers... or we wouldn't be here, would we? n.n; But as far as costs for the rest... I'm not sure. But the last time I looked at prices for a headset, it was around $500. I'm sure it's gone down in price a bit, but... for full virtual reality support, plus motion sensitive capability, PLUS voice recognition, which I'm sure you'll need software for your PC for as well... its still probably in the $500 range. @_@;
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$500!?
$500! Where did you see that? I've seen two different headsets by sony each for either $100 or $200, $500 is just insane.
Hrm.. I guess it depends on the brand, the quality, the capabilities... If they went all out, I guess it would be a little expensive, but maybe not that much. The brand I saw wasn't Sony though. I'd give the link but I just formatted my computer T_T If Sony has them cheaper though? I think I'll stick with theirs. o_o;
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Plus, since .hack//The World is set in a more techno world (most people have 100 mps connection) I don't think they'll come straight out with all the things yet such as the virtual sets, voice recognition, and such. I think they'll just provide a game, maybe even with email accounts and such putting the price at around $50-100 dollas again, cuz you have to have a pc to have the game.........which i hope its for pc instead of ps2
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1. I don't think that a few of you realize that the PS2 does not have that advanced of graphics. A Ge Force 4 MX is more powerfull than the PS2 graphics.
2. The technology is already there to launch something of this scale. All the user would need is DSL or Cable. The VR headsets could also use Bluetooth or another form of wireless.... but the 100 hr battery life is a little far off. The major drawback is that the headsets would cost between $100 and $200 depending on what they plan to include as technology. The controller could be a simple USB device that costs... at tops $20.
3. The games engine is already there. The PS2 Runs on a 300 MHZ Pentium 2. Porting the engine oer to PC would not be much of a challenge for game desighners. All they need to know is how many copies they are going to sell... thats the only thing holding them back. But it may be sooner than expected. I've seen a few random rumors of a .hack//ONLINE on some Japaneese sites. Whether they are more than rumors is yet to be seen
2. The technology is already there to launch something of this scale. All the user would need is DSL or Cable. The VR headsets could also use Bluetooth or another form of wireless.... but the 100 hr battery life is a little far off. The major drawback is that the headsets would cost between $100 and $200 depending on what they plan to include as technology. The controller could be a simple USB device that costs... at tops $20.
3. The games engine is already there. The PS2 Runs on a 300 MHZ Pentium 2. Porting the engine oer to PC would not be much of a challenge for game desighners. All they need to know is how many copies they are going to sell... thats the only thing holding them back. But it may be sooner than expected. I've seen a few random rumors of a .hack//ONLINE on some Japaneese sites. Whether they are more than rumors is yet to be seen
hm...I also want to say something to this topic...
I don't think, that Bandai, Cyberconnect2 and Sony are working on "today's" technology. For First...they definitly WON'T use Geforce graphic cards and that stuff.
It's more likely that the would use their own equipment. If sony works on the project, it's kind of obviously, I think. The Prices are not even close to that what It would be, if there was such a game. Sony already has graphics processors with a performance around 225 times better than the playstation 2 chips, sony told in an interview, some months ago. Some weeks ago from now, they said, that they're working together with (i hope I didn't forget, and tell garbage now) Hp, Intel and some good Memory developer for the needed ram (not Infineon I guess).
They said, "For our demands, there isn't any memory fast enough". So If Sony takes care for the Graphics-Part , in Partner work with Cyberconnect2 (I guess that must be, because I think that Cyberconnect is involved in that Project, and has to tell, and to be told, what they want to/can do with the new Hardware). If sony already has that hardware, it will take a few years to get it mass-reproducible. Then The Price will be high, much more than 200$. The Better/Faster the Reproduction process works, the less it costs the consumer (I guess) So much to the special Headgear and Graphics Processor.
Then, If Bandai, Sony and Cyberconnect work together in that Project, All three will work on the Game software, what's better, because there are more , very good people to worl on it. But again, It will take Years to develop such a (really really) new Game-concept. Then There will be the question on the gameplay.... Who do you play this game togehter with the pad (what sony would produce i guess) and that Headgear? Then there comes the Character design, the Quests, items, everything. Since it is "The World" , and that Monster Graphic Thing From sony, the game Graphic models must be done so detailed and well...that it takes years to do that. Now....after that...is there a console, or is it going via PC ?
If it's on pc, I don't really think, that the OS can be less Than the Windows Version after "Windows Longhorn" , so No windows XP/NT/ME/2000 or less.
You won't Need a Headset...so voice stuff an so on, because (I think) the would integrate it into that "virtual reality" headgear. (propably you have that Microphonepart of a headset too.) Nvidia President said in an Interview with a German Game Magazine - "Were good ten years away from computergenerating a real World in realtime". ... After Rumors, such graphic stuff already exists long. The last thing in that all is the Connection. Today's internet standard is definitly too slow for such a game. There must be a game server (or a server system with more computers than one) ...I want to see that part. this computer must have such a giant capability to handle that all. I don't think that the "Fastpath" technology is fast enough for that. There's one technology, I guess that It would be fast enough...Glass Fibre. (in an experiment, from california to amsterdam(netherlands) they've sent (something around)6,4GB data in less than 5 minutes.) But the Glass Fibre Lines are much too expensive for "normal people".
That all was 84% speculation, and I hope that the half of it isnt true.
I don't think, that Bandai, Cyberconnect2 and Sony are working on "today's" technology. For First...they definitly WON'T use Geforce graphic cards and that stuff.
It's more likely that the would use their own equipment. If sony works on the project, it's kind of obviously, I think. The Prices are not even close to that what It would be, if there was such a game. Sony already has graphics processors with a performance around 225 times better than the playstation 2 chips, sony told in an interview, some months ago. Some weeks ago from now, they said, that they're working together with (i hope I didn't forget, and tell garbage now) Hp, Intel and some good Memory developer for the needed ram (not Infineon I guess).
They said, "For our demands, there isn't any memory fast enough". So If Sony takes care for the Graphics-Part , in Partner work with Cyberconnect2 (I guess that must be, because I think that Cyberconnect is involved in that Project, and has to tell, and to be told, what they want to/can do with the new Hardware). If sony already has that hardware, it will take a few years to get it mass-reproducible. Then The Price will be high, much more than 200$. The Better/Faster the Reproduction process works, the less it costs the consumer (I guess) So much to the special Headgear and Graphics Processor.
Then, If Bandai, Sony and Cyberconnect work together in that Project, All three will work on the Game software, what's better, because there are more , very good people to worl on it. But again, It will take Years to develop such a (really really) new Game-concept. Then There will be the question on the gameplay.... Who do you play this game togehter with the pad (what sony would produce i guess) and that Headgear? Then there comes the Character design, the Quests, items, everything. Since it is "The World" , and that Monster Graphic Thing From sony, the game Graphic models must be done so detailed and well...that it takes years to do that. Now....after that...is there a console, or is it going via PC ?
If it's on pc, I don't really think, that the OS can be less Than the Windows Version after "Windows Longhorn" , so No windows XP/NT/ME/2000 or less.
You won't Need a Headset...so voice stuff an so on, because (I think) the would integrate it into that "virtual reality" headgear. (propably you have that Microphonepart of a headset too.) Nvidia President said in an Interview with a German Game Magazine - "Were good ten years away from computergenerating a real World in realtime". ... After Rumors, such graphic stuff already exists long. The last thing in that all is the Connection. Today's internet standard is definitly too slow for such a game. There must be a game server (or a server system with more computers than one) ...I want to see that part. this computer must have such a giant capability to handle that all. I don't think that the "Fastpath" technology is fast enough for that. There's one technology, I guess that It would be fast enough...Glass Fibre. (in an experiment, from california to amsterdam(netherlands) they've sent (something around)6,4GB data in less than 5 minutes.) But the Glass Fibre Lines are much too expensive for "normal people".
That all was 84% speculation, and I hope that the half of it isnt true.
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BZZZZZZ WRONG... ^_^ j/k
You have alot of valid points... but the up and coming technology is going to satisfy sony.
With "The World" Its still computer animated. And you don't send an entire game over the net. The capabilities of even a 56k can support an online game.
As for graphics... NVidia, ATI, and Trident are all working on next gen chips with MORE than enough power to pull off "The World". The current cards are still more powerfull than people realize.
CPUs are about to take another huge leap with AMD comming out with its 64 bit Consumor CPU in September. The power of such a chip rivals some supercomputers. Not to mendtion DDR-2 RAM that will be released this year as well...
Windows is robust enough to handle any Multimedia that you can throw at it. DX 9 is extremely advanced and can more than handle any of the features of a game such as "The World". Though the fact about the headets integrating microphone and video is very accurate.
We have all the technology already. All we need is someone with enough vision to employ it at full capability.
You have alot of valid points... but the up and coming technology is going to satisfy sony.
With "The World" Its still computer animated. And you don't send an entire game over the net. The capabilities of even a 56k can support an online game.
As for graphics... NVidia, ATI, and Trident are all working on next gen chips with MORE than enough power to pull off "The World". The current cards are still more powerfull than people realize.
CPUs are about to take another huge leap with AMD comming out with its 64 bit Consumor CPU in September. The power of such a chip rivals some supercomputers. Not to mendtion DDR-2 RAM that will be released this year as well...
Windows is robust enough to handle any Multimedia that you can throw at it. DX 9 is extremely advanced and can more than handle any of the features of a game such as "The World". Though the fact about the headets integrating microphone and video is very accurate.
We have all the technology already. All we need is someone with enough vision to employ it at full capability.
That's because Ragnarok Online has a flaw in the programming that creates its own lag. If you're on a map too long, you start to lag on your end. I don't know why they didn't fix this, but that's a programming issue. At the moment, Gravity is dealing with what must have been some DDOS attacks on their servers, what with the recent hacking, and is still having trouble resolving that lag. If they can figure out what port its coming through, they can probably alert the users to shut that port so they stop getting lagged to death.
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It all depends on the ISP. On a 56k I can easily host a CS game.. but if you use a loaded ISP... like AOL, youre screwed.
Anyways there is a new 3D LCD screen technology comming out. It projects a 3D view of an image. It works by sending different signals to each eye. Its quite cool but also quite expensive... but imagine it implimented in the headsets and that would be awsome.
Were not far off from everyone having broadband in their homes either. High speed internet access is being implimented in Korea that uses the powerlines as data carriers. Its going to be about 6 - 8 times the speed of a 56k... not too shabby if ya ask me ^_^
Anyways there is a new 3D LCD screen technology comming out. It projects a 3D view of an image. It works by sending different signals to each eye. Its quite cool but also quite expensive... but imagine it implimented in the headsets and that would be awsome.
Were not far off from everyone having broadband in their homes either. High speed internet access is being implimented in Korea that uses the powerlines as data carriers. Its going to be about 6 - 8 times the speed of a 56k... not too shabby if ya ask me ^_^
And on the topic of games with voice recognition, that's not that far off either. Tsukasa told me that the makers of MYST, in the MMORPG that they've been working on lately, well there's supposed to be voice recognition in the final version. Someone's already working on it, and it's not even Sony. So I really have no doubts that Sony or Cyberconnect will have any problems. 
I think its all just a matter of time, for them to figure out exactly how they want the game to be, and how they're going to market it. And of course, money. They gotta sell enough .hack stuff to fund such a large project. n.n
I think its all just a matter of time, for them to figure out exactly how they want the game to be, and how they're going to market it. And of course, money. They gotta sell enough .hack stuff to fund such a large project. n.nDurhi - Retarded puchiguso